Atina wrote:Looks like Criminal Michael J vs The Shadow Genesis Club.
On one side a hopeless person incapable of learning anything so far and going for the full check list of a most wanted criminal.
On the other side irony.Ironic cause Shadow Genesis is made out of plenty other resources like full characters and stuff from commercial games (Doom stuff, Metal Gear Snake...).
Wasn't it mods like those (Beyond *Censored* Stein) that almost broke the legs of the community long ago ?
Idea 1:
Try to figure out which mod has a higher percentage of edited content or which one has more plagiarized resources or which one is more likely getting attention
from a copyright holder (mod author, id software, unknown company) or which one has the better english. The winner decides about the loser.
Idea 2:
Ban every mod that has more than 50% of ripped resources. See if it kills community or improves it.
Idea 3:
Ban whoever doesn't follow the forum rules.
Idea 4:
Ban Officer MJ for escaping the FBI and a temporary ban for his actions.
Idea 5:
Make a mod out of the Officer Michael drama and settle the final duel there.
Idea 6:
No one is perfect. Ban everyone on the forum and take down Wolf3D Haven. The End.
I'll speak for myself in this case. Since you know the thread, I'll quote you my very first post in this forum:
Mario Maniac wrote:It's a shame my first have to be like this, but enough is enough.
Michael John, first off, I'm aware you are autistic. You asked so many times for help already, even though my brother told you we couldn't help. Despite all warning, you still ignored them, and every once in a while you come here and ask for help again.
I don't know if you don't understand what people tell you, or if you choose to ignore, or you simple don't care, or you pretend you understood when you didn't. Being very honest, I think you have some trouble noticing other people's point of view. I saw your help threads, and very frequently you complain about a bug without saying what you did or what you are trying to do, simple stating you want it work like in some game. People are not magicians to guess what's wrong with your code, neither they will play or have played the game you're talking about.
I admire your persistence while trying to code things, but you must want to learn. You must try to improve yourself, not simple saying it doesn't work until someone code it for you, and you copy/paste it into your own game. You will never learn this way, and this is one reason of why people get annoyed.
Now, that was the nice part of this message. I don't know how many times you sent my brother messages asking for help, but as I said, after some time, you ignore them and start doing it again.
That would be more or less okay if you were actually trying.
But, not long ago, we watched one of your teaser videos of your upcomming mod, where you not just copied features from our mods, you also copied rooms directly from Lost Relic and Shadow Genesis. Same walls, same enemies, same objects. I recognized the central room from Hitler's Limbo and white room from the level Shipwreck Visit.
In other words, you are replicating our game. But not you, because all you do is ask others to do the work for you. Including ourselves right now. So you see... you came here asking our help to basically plagiarize our own work. Do you really expect to get any help this way?
Let me say, we won't help you. You killed any possible chance of receiving our help in the future by doing this. If you wanna replicate the game, fine. But at least, have the guts of doing it yourself, and take responsability for your actions.
Wolf is a nice community. People often use other people's enemies, objects, sounds... and I find most interesting what can be done with the same material, comming from different heads.
What you're doing is different. You're using other people to do the work for you, and you are creating nothing. You want to copy things to make a thing exactly like the original, claiming as you own, and I just can't see the purpose. I really can't.
Again, I know you are autistic, but that does not give you free pass to do whatever you want. You must follow some social rules, but you don't. You get warned, and you do it again. You get warned again, and you do it yet again. And again and again...
Until you learn a bit about how to behave yourself, don't waste your time posting here again. All of those things have been told you by my brother some months ago. This is the last time, because we are aware now that it's completely useless talking to you.
So you see, the problem is not the use of resources. Yes, we use graphics from places/games/mods we have only the vswap stored in our computer since 2000 or maybe older. We don't even know where our resources come from properly. You are right in saying the community will die if we get rid of every single mod with copied content.
The first problem here is that OMJ knows nothing of coding. He asks for help, you code it perfectly. If all has to do is copy/paste code, there's a good chance he will make the compiler crashes somehow, because if he misses a comma, he doesn't how to fix it. And instead of trying to learn what's the problem, he will wait 6 months until someone help him. If no one appears, he will start spamming the forum with more threads about it.
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The second problem is he was replicating our game. Not just using the same resources, but indeed, copy/pasting rooms of our levels into his game. If he takes the graphics, sounds, I don't care. But the point of making a game is the level itself, mostly. Not even that he did by himself. He actually came to us asking help to do that. It is as ridiculous as it sounds.
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Third problem... he never does nothing by himself. My brother and I used resources from several places, yes, but we did everything. We went after the resources, we learned how to code, we created the story, we created the levels, and if we asked for help to do those things 5 times in our life with sdl, that's too much. It's like I told him, "at least do things yourself".
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Fourth problem, OMJ asks help to code things that someone else coded before. He never comes up with his own ideas. So he asked for Shadow Genesis resources, and what will he do if he give him that? He will create several threads asking for help for the following years until he makes other people replicate our game for him. Doesn't matter how long it will take, he will do it... make others do it.
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Fifth problem, he doesn't know english. We joined DHW when we were 9-13 and knew much more english than he does now. Thanks to that, he ignores most of our comments, like he did with brick just now. You write him a wall and he picks one line to talk about and ignores the rest, when he does that.
Did he understand? Did he ignore? We don't know. But his ways never changed, and you gotta admit we had patience.
Up to this day, he keeps sending e-mails to us. E-mails we already replied. He asked Luigi for help in coding, Luigi said no, and in his next reply, he sent his source code files to Luigi code for him.
Talking to him is useless. You're lucky if you just have to repeat yourself only 3 or 4 times for him to understand a third of what you spoke. And don't get happy... wait a month and he will have forgotten everything you said.
And here's the irony:
Officer-Michael John wrote:This 2nd part from Storytelling about me topic. I feel, that I have to relate this. I'm God believer. I know, that many people hate, but God loves a Me. God loves a you too. Some verb poems say it.
Love your neighbor as yourself. Luke 10:25
or
For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16
"
Love your neighbor as yourself.". That means don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you. Do you think this fits Michael John's behavior? Creating a false account and lying to everybody about who he is and what he wants?
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