SonderKommando Revolt

First topic message reminder :

latest screenshots from my "in work" mod:

yeh, so?

2 times? only said it 1 time -.-

well, giving credit twice is cool. its like gettign 2 100% for 1 a test. thats double cool

yeah, exaclty!!!
exactly wolf3d fan. perfect. thats excatly what i meant.

Note those days I'm also busy with my other "mod in progress" - "Russian Front". maybe I should start a separate topic about it though.
And it still needs team members, especially mappers. Some more active than current ones.

Admin wrote:yeah, exaclty!!!
exactly wolf3d fan. perfect. thats excatly what i meant.

hehe

New screenshots:

Nice.. lol the third picture is from my level ?

No, those pictures are not from your level. Currently your level is in question to make it in, ask Ronwolf for details, as he was the one who checked it and made me understand it was not suitable.

The level wasn't finished, so I decided not to use it.

why not? and now I dont get a credit ouf course -.-

Sometimes I feel all you really want (and enjoy) is credit. I personally enjoy the creative work myself, like every true modder should. But that's just my opinion.

And yes, if you level won't make it in, you won't get credit. Ask Ronwolf what you can improve there to make it usable.

doomjedi wrote:Sometimes I feel all you really want (and enjoy) is credit.

No im not, go complain to yourself jeez...

Here is some teaser screenshot.....I hope you'll notice what I want you to notice in it

..a clue - "real" entrance to Auschwitz:

Another teaser:

Looks good.
also, try to see if you can put in the tower thingy in the middle. It looks very good

The tower won't fit as scenety, as 64 height won't allow it to be realistic. If I could use it as scenery, I sure wouldn't put it on the background.

btw a new pic:


(The administration buildings area)

isn't there a way to get the wolf3d engine to be hi-res.(128x128)

Yes there is... Can be found from Rippers site.

lilmanjs wrote:isn't there a way to get the wolf3d engine to be hi-res.(128x128)

It doesn't matter in this case - the sprites still stay the same size, nomatter if they are 64x64 or 128x128...All I meant to say is that a tower that is "wolf3d-ceiling" height is too small to look realistic.

you mean the walls stay at same size? i thought this is a wall?
i heard someone totally messed up their wolf3d by messing up with wall heights.

No, it's not a wall...it's integrated into parallaxed background

Some new teasers....

will there be a brand new status bar when the game is completed?

donnow...I've never made a status bar before...maybe I should try to make one. Anyway, donations are welcomed

well if you want to you can modify one of the final fight status bar varations to suit your mod.
https://wolf3d.darkbb.com/Wolf3d-Stuff-c2/Polls-f7/final-fight-status-bars-t410.htm

Those are nice status bar... I can definetely find some helpful...do you want me to heavy modify/recolor those, or will minor touchups be enouph?

ask toni? he probably will let you use them.

New teasers:

Auschwitz crematorium:




real place:

Nice and evil at the same time, good work on those crematoriums
Can't wait for the game itself..

interesting. i wnder if anybody tried to recreat return to castle wolfnstein...

I personally like recreational mods, though it's the first one for me.
Beside normal wolf3d engine limitation, here you have to recreate an existing place, which is more of a challenge as there aren't many "ready/wolf3d mods" wall textures you can use. Basically all of the mods textures are either ripped from real photos (as in this case) or manually recreated (or combination of both). So it's as real as it can get.

well how about changing the engine?
then we can add in the stuff and make it look good

What do you mean changing the engine? I love wolf3d modding, and don't plan to change the engine. We do add many coding changes to it...still, the engine has its limitations. But those limitation are part of the fascination and a creative challenge of wolf3d modding, that we so love.

Some spiritual dudes say that God itself got so fascinated with limitation (incarnating in a limited physical body) that got lost in it till he forgot who he really was so God is wolf3d modder himself in a way

By the way I've replaced the "non-owen" crematorium walls to grey brick, so it now looks like this:

looking good. can't wait to play the mod.

Awesome work on that HUD bro!

Thanks...the HUD is indeed a good work...still I have doubts wether it fits the theme of this particular mod. Though theoretically it's blood over burned bones. It's just that it looks maybe too gory for the theme.

I can't wait to play this mod. it looks to be one of the most advanced out there if not the most advanced.

Thanks
...but mapping takes time, my friend...we have quite a number of maps made by Ronwolf (though some still need retouch), but as I see it we are less than half way as mapping is concerned. My goal for both of my in-work mods to have at least 20 levels, otherwise it's not worth it and too short to play, especially as the mod have VEEERY extended graphics set that can be used to make virtually endless interesting themes (crematorium, gas chambers, worker barracks, block 11 and nazi offices, execution areas, labs, interrogation/torture areas, food areas, storage areas, forest levels....and others) and maps.

More teasies:

lol. nice shots, doomjedi. nice features

Gas Chambers coding is finished, mapping is going well....
Some new screenshots:

screenshots is amazing! its really god job ( I mean coding and mapping)

yes. I find the second picture quite interesting.

Thank you ,guys

I love the atmosphere, especially with the background in the first picture with the towers in the background. I love the look you have set up here, can't wait to see the mod.

The work on Sonder is still going strong. At least graphically.
Though Sonder is a bit stalled coding-wise- being transferred with Tricob's help to wolf4GW engine (because of all the memory problems all the fancy features I want in it caused), graphically it's going amazing.
Only today I've spent at least a few hours making on of my most impressive and goriest texture work so far in wolf3d modding, a texture I tried to achieve from the beginning of this project.

I thought to "wrap up" Sonder graphically a long time ago, but the ideas just keep coming, endlessly.
This is already one of the largest graphics VSWAPS probably ever, and one that is impressive.
Including tons of animated scenery sprites and other cool features, some have original ideas never seen before in wolf3d.

So I scrap things from VSWAP like a madman, trying to desize it, especially so new sprites won't add to it but only exist existing ones.
Sometimes I have the wish to release a "scrapped art" pack even now, far from the release, just to give a hint about mods quality - "if THOSE graphics were scrapped from the project - imagine the quality of the sprites left in it ". But don't worry - all graphics even scrapped ones will be released after the mod will be released - I don't delete stuff...yet

Title screen was changed to a much nicer one.

...still, I could only wish I'd get some mapping help from the community...Tricob is busy coding, WLHack is almost out of the project being busy with other stuff...Ronwolf is frequently ansent....

Here some old screenshots for you (without all the newer art )

those screenshots are amzing!!! can you really use the sights of that weapon?

lilmanjs wrote:those screenshots are amzing!!! can you really use the sights of that weapon?

No - But trust me, Sniper Rifle is accurate, powerful and fun to play with.
I've accidently by mistake released those sprites in "Russian Front" scrapped art pack on the "other" wolf3d forum. I should have been more careful.
The sprites were made from scratch in MS-Paint.

I can't wait to play this mod. has there ever been a demo released? and if not could there be one released?

lilmanjs wrote:I can't wait to play this mod. has there ever been a demo released? and if not could there be one released?

No, no Demo has been released yet, because of additional coding features still being added, but mainly because of the relatively slow mapping progress. I'd say that currently if I'd count the mapping rate it'd be an average of 1 map a month if not less since the beginning of the project April this year.
You have to understand it's hard to map for a mod that is realistic, especially THAT realistic, you can't just throw things around, 2 vases near every door and such....Also it's hard to map with such a large amount of graphics, the VSWAP is one of the largest ever in wolf3d modding - all the screenshots till now show in total only about 10-20% of overall scenery sprites (including many directional sprites, animations...), 0% of Bosses, only 66% of parallaxed skies (2 of 3), about 40% of textures if not less (there are many more themes in the mod...snow theme is just one example.....) Also I keep replacing older sprites with new sprites so it's confusing.
Graphically speaking (only) the VSWAP is what you'd call in Doom terms "a MegaWad". Generally it's a heavy project, one of the heaviest and without additional help (not graphic, but mainly mapping) it'll take a long time ot make.

In the future I can consider a demo, though it'll have not more than a few levels in that case. Though generally I don't like such ideas, as they ruin the surprise of the whole mod, especially graphically.