Wolf3d Haven Forum

Please log in or register. Smile

Join the forum, it's quick and easy

Wolf3d Haven Forum

Please log in or register. Smile

Wolf3d Haven Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Wolf3d Haven Forum

A friendly Wolfenstein 3D community, about Wolfenstein 3D, the game that gave birth to first person shooters...


+2
stathmk
Princess Peach
6 posters

    Rate each enemy and boss

    Princess Peach
    Princess Peach
    Bring em' On!
    Bring em' On!

    Female
    Number of posts : 104
    Age : 14
    Location : Canada
    Registration date : 2017-01-28

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Princess Peach Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:12 pm

    Rate each enemy and boss Enemies1
    Rate each enemy and boss Enemies2
    Rate each enemy and boss Enemies3
    stathmk
    stathmk
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1708
    Age : 41
    Location : Indiana, United States
    Job : fast food worker & wolfensteingoodies.com webmaster
    Hobbie : old games & young dames
    Registration date : 2008-04-08

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty The Death Knight is the most difficult to defeat

    Post by stathmk Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:15 pm

    Are we talking about rating them on fun or rating them on difficulty?  In 1993, I completed Spear of Destiny's episode 1 not including secret levels in just 1 summer day when I received it from Apogee.  I saved at the beginning of the Death Knight level.  I had to keep on reloading the save for 5 or 6 times because I found him to be the most difficult boss to beat.  I rate him as 10/10 on difficulty.  (By the ways, he looks like he's wearing Google Glass as an anachronism!  )

    I thought that General Fatface is the second most difficult to beat and I had to keep reloading the episode 6 save.  I rate him as 9.5/10 on difficulty.  Episode 6 was tough for players in 1992 and 1993!

    Nobody told me in 1993 that when you get injected to death by Schabbs that the heads up display shows you as a mutant!

    Princess Peach likes this post

    Thomas
    Thomas
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1728
    Age : 30
    Registration date : 2007-09-13

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Thomas Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:37 pm

    @stathmk wrote:Spear of Destiny's episode 1

    Rate each enemy and boss Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1Eowq7SHeVDMzHwGBLO-za-dleMg4ttFvDg&usqp=CAU
    stathmk
    stathmk
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1708
    Age : 41
    Location : Indiana, United States
    Job : fast food worker & wolfensteingoodies.com webmaster
    Hobbie : old games & young dames
    Registration date : 2008-04-08

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Nobody told me that Thomas is a robot!

    Post by stathmk Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:35 pm

    @Thomas wrote:
    @stathmk wrote:Spear of Destiny's episode 1

    Rate each enemy and boss Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1Eowq7SHeVDMzHwGBLO-za-dleMg4ttFvDg&usqp=CAU
    Wow!  Nobody told me that Thomas is a robot!  Comedian Thomas would probably say to the comedian impersonating his wife, “It * Is * Imperative * That * You * Disrobe * To * Continue * Our * Quasi-romantic * Artificial * Intelligence * And * Artificial * Insemination * Relationship!”  Just kidding!
    Thomas
    Thomas
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1728
    Age : 30
    Registration date : 2007-09-13

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Thomas Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:28 pm

    Matty my dear, what is Episode 1 of Spear? Do you mean the 2-level demo?? I need clarity.
    avatar
    AryanWolf3D
    Bring em' On!
    Bring em' On!

    Number of posts : 104
    Age : 33
    Registration date : 2020-02-26

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by AryanWolf3D Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:32 pm

    .


    Last edited by AryanWolf3D on Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:16 pm; edited 1 time in total
    stathmk
    stathmk
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1708
    Age : 41
    Location : Indiana, United States
    Job : fast food worker & wolfensteingoodies.com webmaster
    Hobbie : old games & young dames
    Registration date : 2008-04-08

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Episodes 2 and 3 were for sale in America

    Post by stathmk Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:01 pm

    @Thomas wrote:Matty my dear, what is Episode 1 of Spear? Do you mean the 2-level demo?? I need clarity.
    Thomas, I’m very surprised you didn’t notice episodes 2 and 3.  Episodes 2 and 3 are unofficial or not part of the official timeline.  They were sold boxed at Sam’s Club for awhile in America.  I bought the Super CD pack from Ebay of episodes 1 to 3 which also includes either an editor or a random level generator.  Episodes 2 and 3 were made by Formgen and not by ID Software.  The lost episodes are less famous.
     
    The ghosts are different, dogs are changed to bats, and there are other changes.  It has Professor Quarkblitz, Hans The Axe, and others.  Depending on whether you have the CD-rom, Gog, or Steampowered version, the last level of episode 3 has some wall sprites that look like they were trying to tie it into the Doom timeline and it didn’t exactly work.
     
    My brother-in-law and his Dad had episodes 2, 3, and Rise of The Triad.  I can’t be the only one that remembers The Lost Episodes.
     
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/Spear_Mission_Packs_(Lost_Episodes)
    Steampowered still has them with screenshots of episodes 2 or 3:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/9000/Spear_of_Destiny/
    So does Gog:
    https://www.gog.com/game/wolfenstein_3d_and_spear_of_destiny
    Episode 2:
    https://wolfenstein.fandom.com/wiki/Return_to_Danger
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Return_to_Danger_Maps
    Episode 3:
    https://wolfenstein.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate_Challenge
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/Category:The_Ultimate_Challenge_Maps
    I even scanned the instruction booklets years ago:
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/Return_to_Danger_Instruction_Booklet
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Challenge_Instruction_Booklet
    Ack’s add-ons:
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/Get_Lost!!_-_Return_to_Danger
    https://wl6.fandom.com/wiki/Get_Lost!!_-_The_Ultimate_Challenge
     
    First I played your “All This and Wolf 3D” and I wondered where you’ve gotten the different ghost sprites for level 68.  Or maybe you made levels 1-67 and Chris made levels 68-70.  Then I played episodes 2 and 3 of SOD and I recognized the different ghost sprites.
     
    Somebody once contacted me asking if The Atari Jaguar Wolfenstein 3D includes the Lost Episodes.  The Atari Jaguar version is certain Wolfenstein 3D levels without the Pac-Man ghosts combined with certain Spear of Destiny levels.  The Hades level and The Angel of Death aren’t included.

    Princess Peach, sorry we drifted off topic in this thread.


    Last edited by stathmk on Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:02 pm; edited 1 time in total
    Thomas
    Thomas
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1728
    Age : 30
    Registration date : 2007-09-13

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Thomas Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:22 am

    @stathmk wrote:First I played your “All This and Wolf 3D” and I wondered where you’ve gotten the different ghost sprites for level 68.  Or maybe you made levels 1-67 and Chris made levels 68-70.  Then I played episodes 2 and 3 of SOD and I recognized the different ghost sprites.

    LOL no Chris only made level 69. He could not have made levels 68 & 70 as the general consensus is that they suck.

    But thanks for clearing up the episode thing. Now it all makes more sense. Thank you for clearing that up.
    Wolf3DGuy
    Wolf3DGuy
    Bring em' On!
    Bring em' On!

    Male
    Number of posts : 148
    Age : 29
    Registration date : 2019-02-16

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Wolf3DGuy Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:41 am

    @stathmk wrote:dogs are changed to bats, and there are other changes.
    Oh my... Looks like our wiki-robo-bot can also tell wrong information to us. Shocked

    It's the mutants that were changed to bats, the dogs are the same there, but they're like dobermans in the mission packs instead of german shepherds like in the original, just to clarify.
    stathmk
    stathmk
    Veteran
    Veteran

    Male
    Number of posts : 1708
    Age : 41
    Location : Indiana, United States
    Job : fast food worker & wolfensteingoodies.com webmaster
    Hobbie : old games & young dames
    Registration date : 2008-04-08

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty I had forgotten the different dogs.

    Post by stathmk Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:31 pm

    You are correct.  I had forgotten the episode 2 and 3 dogs are still there, but that they are changed.
    Dark_wizzie
    Dark_wizzie
    I am Death Incarnate!
    I am Death Incarnate!

    Female
    Number of posts : 5119
    Age : 27
    Location : California, USA
    Job : Investor
    Hobbie : Computers, chess, computer chess, fashion, and philosophy
    Message : I made this forum when I was 13 High on Drugs
    Registration date : 2007-03-24

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Dark_wizzie Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:55 am

    Is there actually a difference combat wise between Trans, Greta, and Hans?

    And then Barnacle is just Fatface... So many reskins.



    Wolf3d Haven
    Minute Logic Blog
    Wolf3DGuy
    Wolf3DGuy
    Bring em' On!
    Bring em' On!

    Male
    Number of posts : 148
    Age : 29
    Registration date : 2019-02-16

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Wolf3DGuy Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:58 am

    @stathmk wrote:You are correct.  I had forgotten the episode 2 and 3 dogs are still there, but that they are changed.
    Actually Hans' accuracy, along with the SS soldiers is better, Gretel's firing sound is different, but it doesn't mean that much tho.

    EDIT: Now that I looked at the OG source code, I see that all the bosses in Spear share the same firing sound like Gretel's.

    Sponsored content

    Rate each enemy and boss Empty Re: Rate each enemy and boss

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:29 pm