Posting Ranks Overhaul, Pictures Included

I've changed many posting ranks because most of them were whacky and didn't fit the forum. The ranks now mostly have something to do with Wolfenstein, and they are set in a more logical order. Here are the new posting ranks:



0-500 posts: Each 100 posts you get a new star.
500-1200 posts: Each 100 posts you get a new star. (Different stars than the previous ones.)
1200-1700 posts: Each 100 posts you get a new sword.
1700-2000 posts: Random
2000 posts: Silver stars
2000+ posts: Random

The link of links at https://wolf3d.darkbb.com/t22-statistics-portal-contribution-chatbox-faq-bbcode-other-guides-must-read-edited-8-28-12#43 has been updated to reflect this.

In unrelated news, I will now posts quotes of the week on the forum index.
Wolf3d Idles group has been renamed to 'Super Wolf3d Fanclub!'.

Good day!

Way too many ranks. I've always thought it was silly as f!ck, but hey, that's just my opinion. Good on you and good for this forum.

Thomas wrote:Way too many ranks. I've always thought it was silly as f!ck, but hey, that's just my opinion. Good on you and good for this forum.

Thanks

And thanks for preserving the basketball emoticon as well.

Thomas wrote:And thanks for preserving the basketball emoticon as well.

You're welcome!

Per-Scan is listed as a rank. Does anybody know whatever happened to him? He may be in London, Britain.

stathmk wrote:Does anybody know whatever happened to him? He may be in London, Britain.

That's got to be one of the coolest comments I've ever read.

He may be on the MegaHard Wolfers' Forum - least he was a little while ago.

NOOOOOOOOOO Don't go to the darkside! Go to MegaChill Haven Forum!!!!

By all means, visit DHW as often as you can.

Why all the hate for DHW?

Andy wrote:Why all the hate for DHW?

I didn't see anything wrong with Diehard Wolfers unless you include that it's a little glitchy to join, and they block common email address suffixes like @yahoo.com, @netscape.net, @aol.com, and etc as part of anti-spam measures.

Andy wrote:Why all the hate for DHW?

Well I don't hate the forum, it's just that the way the forum is run isn't my style. I mean, there's no need to be very strict if I'm running a forum where people come in and talk about a game from about 2 decades ago. And yeah, they do block common email addresses, and the forum code is kind of old/glitchy.

Perhaps the better line should have been 'go to Diehard AND Haven', but I think many people are too lazy to do that.

Personally, I've always felt that it was tough impressing anyone at DHW. BrotherTank, AReyeP, ack, Ian Franken and Leo (though I can't recall the two latter ever releasing anything) and all those personalities seemed to have a very tight-knit community with little desire to let anybody new in. One thing is, that they're all in their fourties, whilst those that join were teenagers. That's a 'legitimate' clash, if you can say so. Another thing is, they understand each other better 'cause of their age and their geographic location (they were all American/Canadian, anything with the English language intact) But I can't understand the rest. I also find it's run, as Wizzie said, very strict compared to what it really is.

The first thing new members learn to fear is BrotherTank and his dot-dot-dots and constant need to post each and every rule in your face. That's total BS. If there's a problem, send the person a PM and tell him how the business is run. The whole this-guy-is-obviously-a-newbie-so-I-have-to-post-here-so-EVERYONE-can-see-it is just a total killer. I knew several Wolfers back in 2004/05 who joined and left the community altogether because of the apparent elitism still visible in DHW.

EoD is 8 years old. People need to get over it now.

I've always thought DHW had great potential, and I love the chart system, for example (though it's a good hater outlet as well) but it's just a bit disappointing these last few years. In that respect, Haven is better, 'cause it drag members in that several old farts would've kicked out light years ago. Had a guy like Akuul joined DHW he'd probably be told thousands of times to 'learn English' or some bullshit like that, and had I posted this on DHW I'd be ousted now.

Thomas wrote:Personally, I've always felt that it was tough impressing anyone at DHW. BrotherTank, AReyeP, ack, Ian Franken and Leo (though I can't recall the two latter ever releasing anything) and all those personalities seemed to have a very tight-knit community with little desire to let anybody new in. One thing is, that they're all in their fourties, whilst those that join were teenagers. That's a 'legitimate' clash, if you can say so. Another thing is, they understand each other better 'cause of their age and their geographic location (they were all American/Canadian, anything with the English language intact) But I can't understand the rest. I also find it's run, as Wizzie said, very strict compared to what it really is.

The first thing new members learn to fear is BrotherTank and his dot-dot-dots and constant need to post each and every rule in your face. That's total BS. If there's a problem, send the person a PM and tell him how the business is run. The whole this-guy-is-obviously-a-newbie-so-I-have-to-post-here-so-EVERYONE-can-see-it is just a total killer. I knew several Wolfers back in 2004/05 who joined and left the community altogether because of the apparent elitism still visible in DHW.

EoD is 8 years old. People need to get over it now.

I've always thought DHW had great potential, and I love the chart system, for example (though it's a good hater outlet as well) but it's just a bit disappointing these last few years. In that respect, Haven is better, 'cause it drag members in that several old farts would've kicked out light years ago. Had a guy like Akuul joined DHW he'd probably be told thousands of times to 'learn English' or some bullshit like that, and had I posted this on DHW I'd be ousted now.

Yeah, I think it was Brothertank that hit me hard in the face bac wen i taked liek dis. [Although being in the Wolf community actually got me to fix my spelling, so that's a good thing!] When I made this forum I knew one of the its purpose is to let people that can't join DHW (because they don't want to, got kicked out, or don't have the email address) find a place to stay. Sit back, chill, talk about an old game that brings back memories. As for elitism, I didn't really see that since I never stayed at DHW long enough to make a judgement either way. But if it exists, all I have to say is, it's a DOS-based game from TWO DECADES ago. Even if DHW is the lord-god-awesome-hip place to be for Wolf, I don't see a point in being elite; it's not like it's MW3 and there are a bunch of kids playing that game.

But whatever, it's Brothertank's forum, he runs it how he will. It still has some well-known members that stay only at DHW, so it has that going for it. I'm not trying to crap on DHW or anything like that, at the end of the day we just want Wolf3d to live a long life, right? (It's not like every post in Haven is one less post in DHW, more posts is good for everybody.) <-- Back to basketball emote. GOOD ON ME AND THE FORUM!

I think the elitism is something from way back and is not really prevalent anymore. Most of Thomas' criticism doesn't seem to be that actual in fact. The forum problem sucks, I think it might be time to switch to a different forum but that's BT's choice.

I also don't really get the EoD comment. Do you mean that people have assumed that you can't top that? Because if so, that is incredibly stupid of them.

at the end of the day we just want Wolf3d to live a long life, right?

Exactly.

Hi Herbert!

Chokster37 wrote:I find the new "The Creepy Guy That Never Posts" awesome.

Roger that! Too bad none of us will ever get that rank, eh?

Chokster37 wrote:I think the reason for the "strictness" on DHW is because back in the Yahoo club days there was a lot of randomness and flamefests at DJ's TheWolfenstein3dFanclub (group was eventually banned by TerminX, then Nate made a new version called Wolfenstein3dFanClub). MCS/Brothertank/AReyeP didn't like all the "chaos/fun" there and decided they wanted a more "professional" club to hang out in. Then later, Tristan made a cool "forum" with different sections (wasn't the first but it became pretty popular) and the Tank/RIP/MCS trio decided to switch over to a forum too and keep the DHW color/theme (MCS put Brothertank as admin and kept the DHW name because he liked BT's way of handling the Yahoo club). Well, that is my understanding of how it all went down.

I've read my way to believe that the earliest days of the Wolf community were pretty tough. That guy, Nate... And there was another one, Ryan Steinbruner. They posted some real out-of-sight offensive words as the only thing, really... You know, childish. Childish, arrogant and annoying in a direct sense (not as sugarcoated as my posts, for example ) So I understand their desire to create a troll-less forum, so to speak.

Sad truth is, that's not going to happen without criticism. If you want a clean, pure forum without arguments that reach beyond 'I respect yer opinion, sirrr' etc... Well, that's the same as saying 'I want world peace. To hell with the troublemakers' --- it's never going to happen. Just face the problems, decide if you want to react (bear in mind, this is only a forum, only people with whom you obviously so far only share one thing - WOLF) and then let go.

ronwolf1705 wrote:Most of Thomas' criticism doesn't seem to be that actual in fact.

Of course it's not 'actual' to you, 'cause these are my feelings. It's different with you, Ron. When you joined, I don't recall you making any silly comments, no comments that fell to the floor immediately, no low-brow English that didn't work 'cause you couldn't spell etc. They even made you a moderator now. Me, on the other hand, have been told I'm a bad seed on more than one instance - I thought it'd wear off and I 'tried' to behave after the first one/two years, but apparently, it made no difference. None of the oldschool wolfers gave a damn about my English which had improved, my modding output (which just kept coming and coming while people such as Leo etc. never released anything at all), so I stopped caring. To me, at least (and I totally respect people who do not share my opinion, but it's a free world here) it seems that DHW, roughly 10 years on, is still the same; dominated by the same people with the same expectations. And if you do not fit in their exact image of how a Wolfer should behave, what a Wolfer should release, what a Wolfer should comment etc... Just disappear and no one will care.

'Oldschool' people such as Chris and Brian Lowe were always great about anything though. I never recall Brian saying a bad word about anyone, he's always been incredibly patient, open-minded and welcoming to the worst of noobies (myself included).

ronwolf1705 wrote:I also don't really get the EoD comment. Do you mean that people have assumed that you can't top that? Because if so, that is incredibly stupid of them.

It is, but it seems it's the truth. Absence, for example. Where were the endless praise and threads that went on for years when that came out? It had so much more power and so much more surprise. I'm not bashing EoD, still think it's a great mod and I love it, but, let's face it, it's outrageously overrated to the extend where it gets tedious just mentioning it.

Chokster37 wrote:I dig this forum too, it is a nice alternative that seems more "open". Some people seem to join and chat either only here or there, but most people who come here seem to at least read the DHW forum too sometimes anyway (I find how Metalor posts the exact same messages on both forums kind of weird for this reason - lol). As for ranks, I find the new "The Creepy Guy That Never Posts" for 0 is awesome. It is funny how 124 posts is "I am Death Incarnate!" but 125 is "Noob Poster". I used to delete an old post every time I made a new one to stay "I am Death Incarnate!" instead of "Postie Pete" or something, but it seems there are no more old posts I can delete, and this new amazing "ABC-123" rank I can never get to is even more heartbreaking!!! Ahhhhhh oh well. Next interesting one on the list to aim for seems to be "321" I guess, but it doesn't sound as cool as ABC-123.

Actually ABC-123 has been here for some time now.

Thomas wrote:

Chokster37 wrote:I find the new "The Creepy Guy That Never Posts" awesome.

Roger that! Too bad none of us will ever get that rank, eh?

One can dream.

Thomas wrote:

Of course it's not 'actual' to you, 'cause these are my feelings. It's different with you, Ron. When you joined, I don't recall you making any silly comments, no comments that fell to the floor immediately, no low-brow English that didn't work 'cause you couldn't spell etc.

Sounded just like me when I joined there, haha. Go me!

Thomas wrote:
'Oldschool' people such as Chris and Brian Lowe were always great about anything though. I never recall Brian saying a bad word about anyone, he's always been incredibly patient, open-minded and welcoming to the worst of noobies (myself included).

Brian definitely is a patient one.

Of course it's not 'actual' to you, 'cause these are my feelings.

Well, I meant 'actual' as in happening right now. But that might also be because the forums been pretty empty.

I don't recall you making any silly comments

I learnt pretty fast that irony and sarcasm don't go well with online forums.

'Oldschool' people such as Chris and Brian Lowe were always great about anything though.

Yeah, great guys.

Absence, for example.

I agree, that is one hell of a mod. I sure praised it, but I think it's also coupled to the forums inactivity. Whereas when EoD got released the forum was pretty much at its high point I believe.