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    Post by SandieK Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:30 pm

    Im going to take a wild guess that the reason the Mac version has better graphics is due to programming and that Macs could support better graphics at the time. Or something.

    Why did the Mac version get a flamethrower and a rocket launcher? So Mac users could have something to boast about?
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    Post by lilmanjs Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:37 pm

    you can download the Mac-enstein series of mods to see what the Mac version was like. that series is made by Andy Nonymous.



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    Post by SandieK Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:00 pm

    Actually, I just got through with a couple levels of Episode 2. Thats what sparked the whole "why do they like Mac better?" thing.
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    Post by lilmanjs Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:03 pm

    I think the Mac version is way too easy. I used to have a mac with all of the wolf3d stuff on it but it wasn't fun for me. too easy.



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    Post by SandieK Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:36 pm

    I noticed that. Is the add on supposed to be like a regular modded add on, or the mac version, winows playable? I finished both levels thinking "thats it?"
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    Post by lilmanjs Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:50 pm

    well the mod is really easy and that is how the Mac version is. way too easy. he got it looking and playing like the Mac version.



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    Post by TheUbermutant Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:47 am

    The Mac version is kind of easy although is cool.I'll go for the Windows version.It's a little more challenging



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    Post by rgamesinc Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:57 pm

    I started with Wolfenstein on the mac, so I had a look at it with no previous bias, and here is what I thought:

    The graphics: Good
    The weapons: Good, but the new ones not really needed
    The levels: Pretty easy, but justified with a kick-arse, easy to use level editor

    When I got onto the PC wolfenstein, it was years after I had last played Mac wolf and thought that perhapse I had just remembered wolfenstein differently than it actually was. However, when I went back to the Mac wolfenstein I realised that the windows version actually WAS better, for these reasons:

    The animations: more fluent (and plentiful: flames and syringes actually moved)
    The rotations: extremely useful for fun gameplay and stealthiness
    The levels: better, more challenging at times
    The enemies: have more character and fight it seems
    The score and items: have purpose
    Secret levels: are good
    The available editors: allow for much more editing

    So, from somebody who started out with Mac wolf, I am saying that the PC version is better. I don't know if this means anything, but I thought that it may help whatever little debate there may be.
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    Post by SandieK Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:56 pm

    Meh. Using the rocket launcher available in the Mac version, I killed a boss easily before he even had a chance to shoot.

    It never bothered me in Windows version, but the sound effects from killing a dog in the Mac version threw me a little because it was so realistic. Its like Riggs in Lethal Weapon. People are okay, but not dogs. Oh well. LOL
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    Post by Dark_wizzie Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:13 pm

    lilmanjs wrote:well the mod is really easy and that is how the Mac version is. way too easy. he got it looking and playing like the Mac version.
    well, then, I think my mom would enjoy this Mac Mod Very Happy
    I am totally neutral to this debate simply because I have never played MAC Wolf3d. My mouse is funky so I can't play a thing. But I'll try it with my new mouse.



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    Post by SandieK Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:05 pm

    Ive never used my mouse for Wolf3D. Waaaay back when, I used a joystick, then used only the keyboard.
    I tried to use the mouse on 3D, but because of other FPS games I kept wanting to duck and jump, which wasted time which means I died a lot when I did that. With one exception, I do fine on keyboard, and I still dont know what my cat did to screw up the controls on Totenhammer.
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    Post by SandieK Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:25 pm

    I dont like that the Mac version doesnt have subtle 'notifications' when you get hit. In the windows version, the screen takes flashes a red tint every time you get hit. To me this meant:lots of baddies + lots of red= retreat and recoup (I think I saw some benefull in the last room). Same situation in Mac. Lots of baddies and no red mean I die or am at 11% before I can get out.
    Yes. I should pay more attention to the actual health bar, but oh well.
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    Post by lilmanjs Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:28 pm

    the mac version isn't as fun as wolf3d on the PC and plus not many mods are made for the Mac version. if only some of the great PC wolf3d mods would be made into great Mac wolf3d mods.



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    Post by Airslide Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:22 pm

    I like the mac version mainly for the higher resolution and graphics (though mainly the resolution) and the multiple sound voices (man, if I had 640x480 and multiple sounds on the PC version I'd be in heaven, lol). It is easy in most cases, with a few parts that are more difficult (mainly involving mutants) . I'm not sure what difficulty I'm playing it on right now though - I haven't actually beat it, mainly cause I keep getting interupted by a memory error. I tried macenstein but it just doesn't seem to feel like the real one (and certainly doesn't have the music, another feature I like)

    Overall they both have their ups and downs, but for modding I'd take the PC version anyday.



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