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    Post by Tragos2d Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:28 pm

    New Nazi sprite I would like to eventually animate. It's a real pity I lack the funds to take this sprite past this concept idea.
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    Post by Tragos2d Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:33 pm

    One more.
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:26 am

    MP40 Soldier Concept. I like this one a lot!

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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:32 am

    Hitler!
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:37 am

    High ranking Nazi.
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:49 am

    I hope to actually gather the materials and spend the time to make full sprites one day.
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    If anyone is interested in this process I will be happy to elaborate. The figures are 1/12 scale and are digitized using a octagon lazy susan. I have a full studio setup for this entire process. By the end of the year I plan to digitize myself! Smile
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:24 am

    Scout concept.
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    Post by Atina Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:45 am

    ok im curious for what are you uploading them here? You gonna finish them one day and what would be the use of it then? And what would be the problem to upload all pictues in one post cause every few hours you put something new?
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:31 am

    Its just a preview. I was too lazy to go back and consolidate everything into one post. Yes I plan on taking these out of concept and turning the into actual 8 sided sprites. Whats the problem showing off the preliminary work? They are posted here because they might be of interest to the community. (DUH) How about mentioning something constructive?


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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:31 am

    Also, what do funds have to do with animating them?



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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:33 am

    All those bits cost money Zin. Building my own Nazi figures would be cheaper but certain parts like uniforms and weapons can cost in excess of $20 or more a piece. Barbies can get expensive ya know? Smile None of what you see above are actual figures I personally own but are representative of what I'd like to build. Much better looking than crappy MSpaint edits wouldn't you agree?
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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:36 am

    PLEASE STOP EDITING YOUR GODDAMN POST AFTER PEOPLE REPLY......

    If they aren't yours, seems rather odd to post them.



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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:38 am

    You would need a very high quality webcam. Digital Cameras work better. Optical Zoom is what you want when it comes to sprites because once they are shrank down to the proper size you may loose some of the finer details.

    @Zin

    I did make these images. (pixely) But I did not construct the figures. I cannot control when I am editing a post new ones are being posted?


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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:42 am

    What are/would they be used in?



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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:43 am

    I could see 128x128 versions of these sprites being used for Wolf4SDL project.
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    Post by Atina Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:50 am

    forum rules:

    "6. Do not spam post. This means not posting 2 messages one after another within 5 seconds. [Please wait at very least 30 minutes]. Just edit your post, and put 'EDIT:'"

    and you just proved you know how to edit so what was problem to do same about sprite posts?

    so ok... you posted sprites from figures you dont have cause of lack of money. so it's prevew of something different that you would do wit some money funding, cause first you would have to get figures right? so now you post something just to get ppl attention to help (pay?) you with something that actually gonna look totally different? btw arent spites BIT too big?
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:55 am

    It was not my intention to spam. Again, must I apologize for being lazy? LOL

    I could match the quality in the screens above. I created these from photos. Sprites can be scaled too practically any size needed. Anything else you'd like to know?
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    Post by Atina Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:01 am

    Oki, do spites 64x64/128x128 and then show us. now you are posting something totaly off (picture size arround 300x500) thats not gonna look like what you just posted. Besides how would the figures you would buy look like, Barbie dolls with helmets and guns?
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:04 am

    Okay I posted LARGER sprites so you can see the details. Proving I know what I am doing regarding this "DOOM process" of sprite digitizing. (what I like to call it)

    The reference to Barbie was a joke. I actually use 1/12 scale Dragon figures. (I have over 20) The bits that cost the major money are the accessories. (like barbie) Sprites based upon such figures would still be usable at 64x64. If you want to see the above images in 64x64 and in the Wolf3d palette than do it yourself. I thought showcasing what I am doing spoke for itself but apparently its not obvious enough for some people?

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    Post by Atina Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:17 am

    Resize and post maybe you will see how awesome it will look like. Then i will go on with chat and give constructive opinion =p
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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:22 am

    Since you're lazy and lack skill? I went ahead and made another edit. Smile

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    Obviously I need a different palette. But I am working on breaking the awful 256 color limitation so this won't be an issue when I sit down and make all 50+ frames. If someone feels like retouching my graphics to conform to 256 colors then be my guest!
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    Post by Atina Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:33 am

    * you are lazy one that you didnt edit post.
    * you made topic so its your work to prove what you wanna show.

    and how can you assume i lack skill / assume i never tried something like that or similar?

    still waiting for how sprites would really look like, also in 64x64.

    and hay, consider to stop beeing arogant ^^ for your own good xd
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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:54 pm

    Yeah, I'm with Atina. What's the point of posting random pictures if they don't work in wolf3d anyway?

    Check out this cool random picture! With enough editing, I'm sure you get it to work in wolf3d too:

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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:01 pm

    I'm guessing I wasn't the only one who felt like they were being solicited by the phrase "It's a real pity I lack the funds to take this sprite past this concept idea".



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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:50 pm

    Atina wrote:how can you assume i lack skill / assume i never tried something like that or similar?

    Then prove it. I can't help how you people feel? But solicited?? I was stating a fact that it would cost materials beyond what I can afford at this time to make proper sprites out of these figures. The images are proof on concept showing what could be if I built my own variants. I'm really starting to think this community is full of adolescent minded nitwits. Sorry but that's just how I feel? Smile

    I doubt anyone's MSpaint skills here can make a halfway decent Waffle sprite but I will be posting a concept idea soon. Thanks for the support and once again staying on topic. Must discussions always turn into mindless drivel? Would it kill anyone to provide constructive feedback? I guess so.

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    Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:00 pm

    Tragos2d wrote:Must discussions always turn into mindless drivel? Would it kill anyone to provide constructive feedback? I guess so.
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    Post by Atina Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:22 pm

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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:01 pm

    Finally something productive. I am still working on my waffle.

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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:31 pm

    You just figured out how to use the forum? Congrats. Your post once again reflects that my assumptions are true.

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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:27 pm

    Tragos2d wrote:
    Atina wrote:how can you assume i lack skill / assume i never tried something like that or similar?

    Then prove it. I can't help how you people feel? But solicited?? I was stating a fact that it would cost materials beyond what I can afford at this time to make proper sprites out of these figures. The images are proof on concept showing what could be if I built my own variants. I'm really starting to think this community is full of adolescent minded nitwits. Sorry but that's just how I feel? Smile

    I doubt anyone's MSpaint skills here can make a halfway decent Waffle sprite but I will be posting a concept idea soon. Thanks for the support and once again staying on topic. Must discussions always turn into mindless drivel? Would it kill anyone to provide constructive feedback? I guess so.


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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:38 pm

    A moderator just needs to lock this thread. Also we should block any future attempts at decent looking sprites because they don't belong here at Wolf Haven.

    I am not trying to solicit anyone Zin.
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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:41 pm

    It probably wouldn't have gotten to this point had you just ignored the other's remarks. You're grown enough to know better and to know that this is a forum. We aren't sitting at a table so you're not obligated to respond to anyone's remarks. You talk about being a grown up and what not in your post report but wouldn't the adult thing to do have been simply purge your mind of this topic's existence? They would've stopped posting here eventually. Sometimes trying to get the last word or explain things is like adding petrol to a fire, and we all know how that works, right?

    You're 26, just ignore it, it isn't a big issue.



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    Post by Tragos2d Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:44 pm

    I mostly agree with you Zin. But I have little tolerance for such BS and I belief I have every right to defend myself.

    Heck.... I just wanted to have a discussion about digitized sprites.
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    Post by Dr.Zin Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:48 pm

    Frankly, if you don't have a thick skin your internet experience is going to be very, very unpleasant. If you cannot tolerate some internet bullshit then I don't know what to tell you. The best defense is simply to not get involved. As far as what you're wanting to discuss, feel free to do so but please take the advice I sent you in the latest PM, for all our sakes.



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