I congratulate you on the occasion...

I want to congratulate
the community Wolf 3D with a holiday on May 9.
It is a day of victory over the Nazis of the Third Reich.
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Yeah, yeah, enough with the commie shit already. It's been almost 70 years. And they were no better than the Nazis. The Americans were just desperate to find someone to cooperate with.

Thomas wrote:Yeah, yeah, enough with the commie shit already. It's been almost 70 years. And they were no better than the Nazis. The Americans were just desperate to find someone to cooperate with.

I agree.

Hi Pegasus!

Thomas wrote:..The Americans were just desperate to find someone to cooperate with.

It looks like you are not watching TV? I advise you to turn and look as NATO along with your terrorized Americans Yugoslavia, Iran .. At the moment you Americans support a military coup in Syria. You do not see black flags at Al-Qaeda pseudo-revolutionaries. the same way you did not see these flags in Libya .. By the way there in Libya? American "democracy" came in this country? Or continuing carnage?
Better for you to think about how many Americans killing Americans bought guns in supermarkets. And think about how many were killed by the Indians - the indigenous inhabitants of America.
Today, the U.S.A is worse than the Soviet Union.
But I hope Russia will be a good example. As at the moment Russia is the guarantor of peace and stability.

P.S. By the way. before you complain about the Communists would be better if you were thinking about copyright protection. As far as I know open source does not give the right to change the graphics in the game. How many times have you broke this item?

P.S.S. At the same time a good example - I just wanted to congratulate the victory. In response, some shit about communism.

The parade May 9, 1945
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Long live the feat of soldiers from all countries who fought against Nazism.

I'm really not interested in starting a discussion over American interests anno 2013...

Hm, correct is long live the feat of soldiers from all countries, who fought against nazism and communism. Yes, was day of victory, but sadly not for Baltics.

Thomas wrote:I'm really not interested in starting a discussion over American interests anno 2013...

I would be very surprised if the Americans would like to discuss its current policy of USA. Because the United States today is an embodiment of the dictatorship and terror. Once again I want to remind you - the Soviet Union in the past .. This country no longer exists. Disadvantages of U.S. foreign policy, we see now. Do you understand the difference?
The swastika on the buttocks ? Such a picture of brave Americans saw?
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Valts wrote:... Yes, was day of victory, but sadly not for Baltics.

If the Baltic countries will be hoping that they want Europe will lose again. Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia - hostages of big politics .. Unfortunately .. and many people who live in these countries do not want to understand. At the time, the farther away the more we must come together.

P.S. By the way .. last watched a movie about Batman? There after Bain depicts a typical communist .. And you've got Bane on the avatar .. It is not logical

Well, honestly I dont have watched that movie, because I prefer books. And Bane , I like just that picture ( because I read lot comics) - that avatar do not have any connection with communism, its just art. When my avatar is Red Skull, does this mean I am nazi? I do not think so. But everyone has their own opinion or how they want think, and let him.

Valts wrote:Well, honestly I dont have watched that movie, because I prefer books. And Bane , I like just that picture ( because I read lot comics) - that avatar do not have any connection with communism, its just art. When my avatar is Red Skull, does this mean I am nazi? I do not think so. But everyone has their own opinion or how they want think, and let him.

.. I actually made ​​a joke r And agree that comics Batman smarter, deeper and more diverse than cinema adaptations. At least take the "Batman: Earth One" or "Batman: Arkham Asylum" оr "Batman: Nine Livese" or "Batman: The Long Halloween".. Also I like it "Batman: The Killing Joke" .. and the anecdote at the end of history is good .. A lot of interesting stories about Batman. And Nolan's film advise you to see. Nolan, it seems the only director who has approached the character of Batman and tried to show it in such a way it is.

Akuul wrote:

Valts wrote:Well, honestly I dont have watched that movie, because I prefer books. And Bane , I like just that picture ( because I read lot comics) - that avatar do not have any connection with communism, its just art. When my avatar is Red Skull, does this mean I am nazi? I do not think so. But everyone has their own opinion or how they want think, and let him.

.. I actually made ​​a joke r And agree that comics Batman smarter, deeper and more diverse than cinema adaptations. At least take the "Batman: Earth One" or "Batman: Arkham Asylum" оr "Batman: Nine Livese" or "Batman: The Long Halloween".. Also I like it "Batman: The Killing Joke" .. and the anecdote at the end of history is good .. A lot of interesting stories about Batman. And Nolan's film advise you to see. Nolan, it seems the only director who has approached the character of Batman and tried to show it in such a way it is.

Good to know . You snatching good Batman comics names out. (Y)

Valts wrote:Good to know . You snatching good Batman comics names out. (Y)

I have not yet mentioned my favorite - "Batman: Year One", "Dark Knight Returns", "Batman: Dark Victory". I liked very "Batman: Year 100" and many others .. For example "Catwoman: When in Rome". And a masterpiece, I think, - "Batman: Black & White". Quite surprising that it is for stories about Batman worked so many talented artists and writers ...

Well as for choosing between nazi and russian at ww2 it's basically same thing. Both sides wanted to take control both sides were murderers. Even both sides had work/concentration camps to murder prisoners... no other country celebrates this day cause for no one else it was "victory" cause it was just all about which dictator gonna take control... and it brought nothing good at all except years of communism and poverty years.
Besides war ended on 8 may.. russia has delay cause USA forgot to mention it.

Hi Philip!

People brought up on American propaganda I suggest to read more books. In these books, they learn that the Communists came to power thanks to the money from the west (the Germans, England, USA, etc.) Western countries have miscalculated.. Communists seized power and retained power and then another, and saved the world from the Nazis
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I would like to wish everyone a peaceful sky, happiness in his personal life and health.

Hi Kerry!

Thomas wrote:..enemy today: Islam....

Perhaps you meant to say - the terrorists who hide behind in Islam or even believing in Islam? But in this situation, we again have to go back to the question - who is now feeding or support these "revolutionaries" terrorists? That's why I want to say - do not look to the past. The socialist countries have long ceased to exist. The Communist Party also removed from power. The past should be remembered but more important to assess the present.

Thomas wrote:..but can't you see that Communism is the same evil as Nazism?!..

Everyone can see a lot. But in history there is such a thing as a "witch hunt".. You're familiar with the story? McCarthyism? 1953—1954? Of course it can not be compared with Stalinist or Nazi camps, but the precedent has been.

Thomas wrote:..Czechoslovakia..

Always wanted to ask people from Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia .. and so on. What these people do not have enough? This is bad lived? And of course it does not matter to you Thomas. They did not have socialism.

Hi Steven!

Thomas wrote:....

Many words and again one and the same-. The Communists .. Communists .. Communists .. In the gospel there is a wonderful word for this - what do you see the speck in your brother's eye, and the beam that is in thine own eye did not feel it? But I do not even want to laugh and everything is clear. Indeed why foreigners to remember the thousands killed by the Lebanese, Yugoslavs, Syrians, Afghans, and many others .. foreigners seem more interesting cartoons about communists.

Akuul wrote:Perhaps you meant to say - the terrorists who hide behind in Islam

Well, from one side - indeed - religion is an excuse for violence. Especially misinterpreted - which is easy in case of religion, with such old and primitive texts, one can find and excuse for EVERYTHING in there if he wishes to.

But this happens in EVERY religion, not only Islam - in Islam it just takes most violent forms. Jewish "sacred war against Amaleks" - is not different from "holy Jihad" - at least in the concept, the idea behind it. Those were the ideas and terms of the time in which Koran and Bible were written. Anything that is different from the mindset and concepts of those times (look at laws of Hammorapi for example) - is just a free interpretation unrelated to original text's intention - sometimes to control and manipulate, gain power and money - (and free sexual access to young boys) - sometimes - excuse for violence and murder. In case of Islam - the problem is that the extremist interpetation gained too much power, followers, room in minds of arabs. But this could happen to any religion.

But now back to the topic.

Akuul - I like you as a Wolfer - but as a person of a political views - we are universes apart. You're brainwashed by soviet and later russian propaganda. I see such even on russian channels in Israel. You can't be objective living under controlled press in a a biggest oligarchacy regime.
It's ok, I understand you, it's legit - like it's legit to get drunk - as long as you're aware you're drunk and not objective - and don't sit near the wheel to drive a car. Drinking is ok, driving while drunk - is not.
There was absolutely no difference between Nazi and Soviet regime and dictatorship. Which is ok, it was the mindset of people of those times to support such dark regimes.
The only difference between Stalin and Hitler - is that Stalin decided to put his agression towards his own people - killing, executing and torturing millions of them - and Hitler put his agression mostly towards other countries (not that he didn't hunt his own people too). Hitler had greater expansion plans, that's the only difference, Stalin wanted inner power within USSR for himself - just like North Korea leader now - cares about his local power, not expansion plans - starivng his own people to death, killing them. Also russians didn't have that "take over the world" concept in their mindset - unlike German people that had same ideas from WWI. But then again - French with Napoleon had the same concepts even earlier.
There is no other difference...not in a leader's mindset, not in the system they built, with all the SS and the NKVDs and the KGBs, their paranoic fear of being betrayed..............

WWII was a War between 2 mafia gangs, with leaders of huge Egos (like sending millions to die just to defend non-important city just because it's named after Stalin) . Anything other than that - is a idealization of what really went there.
Stalin killed all his best officers - and later just sent people for massacre trying to drawn nazis with blood of soviet soldiers, block their tanks with body piles.

doomjedi

I agree with the fact that all the talk about war and peace fraught with history. But in these conversations, it is important to take into account..

1. Lesser evil in World War II
2. The relevance of history of past years compared with the realities of the modern world

The question naturally arises

for 1. Winning Nazi Germany and its allies during World War II would have been better? Or is more useful for all states was the victory of the Soviet Army and its allies?
for 2. Which states intervene in the internal affairs of other states up to the military intervention at this time?

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I might add - On the Russian forum, I started talking about dogs .. who participated in World War II. I talked about the Soviet dogs, American dog. For example in the U.S. one of the most famous dog called "Chip's". Awards - "Silver Star" and "Purple Heart"..
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In the photo, Eisenhower and "Chip's"
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No less famous dog named "Smoky"
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On that day, my words too did not like some of the participants.. They thought that says about the Americans do not need..
It looks like is not it..
Some people do not want to remember the heroism of Soviet soldiers in World War II. Others do not want to know about the heroism of American soldiers in World War II. All together not want to see that in today's world, there are new groups of radicals (ultra) and a new dictatorship.

for 1. Winning Nazi Germany and its allies during World War II would have been better?

No. This is obvious. Sure it was lesser evil.

Or is more useful for all states was the victory of the Soviet Army and its allies?

Yes, it was great Germany lost the war, and USSR and it's allies won.

Which states intervene in the internal affairs of other states up to the military intervention at this time?

Both USA and Russia. Russia doesn't intervene with Syria? Where are russian war ships now? Selling most advanced, state of the art russian weaponry to Syrian regime to help him to hold on against rebels - is not intervention in internal Syrian affairs? Then I don't know what intervention is... Russia has a clear side on Syrian internal conflict, they protect Assad in the UN and such. There is a civil war in Syria, real one...yes, Al Kaeda terrorists jumped on the opportunity...but it's a real civil war, as in Syria small minority conrolled a huge majority which hated Assad. When there is a civil war and you support only one side - you interfere with it's internal affairs.
USA and Russia have political cold war over control of countries and regions.
Yes, USA have more war-like interventions with actual soldiers....but what about political intervention in internal affairs of countries? BTW russians have a past in Afganistan and such.

Some people do not want to remember the heroism of Soviet soldiers in World War II

There is no doubt there. It was a heroic war, especially on a russian side. It was a heroic era in general.
Some heroism could be prevented or avoided if Stalin didn't kill all the best officers prior to the war, believe his intelligence, prepare for war, didn't trust Hitler and didn't send people to die just because he wanted to protect a city named after him.
But the small people did some sincere heroism in the war, epic one even.

doomjedi wrote:USA and Russia have political cold war over control of countries and regions. Yes, USA have more war-like interventions with actual soldiers....but what about political intervention in internal affairs of countries? .

Here .. here .. important - USA have more war-like interventions with actual soldiers..
But there is a claim, and to the policy of Russia. Russia had to take a stronger position at the time when the war broke out in Yugoslavia.

doomjedi wrote:..didn't send people to die just because he wanted to protect a city named after him.

I think it was more difficult .. The Germans broke away on the southern front in the direction of Stalingrad. It was impossible to allow the German army to go even further.
But even if the main reason is that the ideology - of ideology is important too. In Leningrad, many victims. During the Battle of Moscow, too many have died. These cities had to be left to the germans, or they had to be protected?
..ie I think that some of the city as a symbol, the flag of the country are no less important than real military strategic site.

doomjedi wrote:..didn't kill all the best officers prior to the war..

This issue is no less complicated.
Some historians call the general figure of repressed officers. Other historians call a .. How many have been dismissed from the army for political nuances .. How then returned back to the army .. How many were in reality under investigation ..
For example, from January 1 to November 1, 1937

Moscow Military District - Laid off 1,252 of them arrested 363
Leningrad Military District - Laid off 1015 of them arrested 60
Belarus Military District - Laid off 1215 of them arrested 279
Kiev Military District - Laid off 1126 of them arrested 382
Kharkov Military District - Laid off 780 of them arrested 257
North-Caucasian Military District - Laid off 569 of them arrested 101
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From the list of repressed corps commanders (military rank senior commanders of the Red Army).

- Have not had a military education, 21 people (31.8%)
- Came out of the lower ranks -7. (10.6%)
- They went out from among the ensigns - 19 people (28.78%)
- They went out from among the staff-captain - 13 people (19.7%)
- Of the colonels - 5 people ..

...of these...

- Do not completed any courses or Higher Academies 35 people (53%)
- Finished Higher courses (one year of study) - 12 people (18.18%)
- Graduated from the Academy. - (From 3 to 4 years) 19 people (28.78%)

From the report of the Office for the officers of the Red Army of the USSR People's Commissariat of Defense E. A. Schadenkoza in 1939 (the release of the Red Army Academies)

1935 - 1359 officers
1936 - 2311 officers
1937 - 2803 officers
1938 - 2762 officers ..
1939 - 4432 officers ..

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Therefore, to say that Stalin's purges removed the most educated officers would be wrong.. There were other problems.. For example the preparation (practice and theory) of Soviet officers (graduates) was lower in comparison with the German.
In general, a more careful analysis of the figures. At the same time one can not deny the fact that the repression was.