the main types of utilitys i'm loking for are level editing utilitys EDIT:this problom was solved ages ago...
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IT WORKED thnx what happend was i googled chaos edit@Dark_wizzie wrote:I uploaded Chaosedit here: http://www.2shared.com/file/yCBgqbMt/CEprev1_27.html
thanks@WolferCooker wrote:Monkee's Image World, created by Majik Monkee.
@WolferCooker wrote:What I don't like about WDC is that you need a C++ program to compile and save your work whether you edit the mod or make a new one.
I only use it to listen to IMF music in mods that cannot be heard on Chaosedit.
@Dr.Zin wrote:Well, Wolf3d isn't G/ZDoom, it isn't something that is evolving at any real rate. The tools that do exist are both well-designed and do their job excellently - a rarer thing than one might actually think! That said, considering what Wolf3d is, we shouldn't consider a lack in tool development as a sign of decline when mods and TCs are still being developed and released fairly frequently. When those drop off is when we should be worried. Remember, people used a relatively basic and seldom-updated set of tools for years before Florian Stohr came up with the idea of an all-in-one editor (which wasn't exactly the recipient of frequent updates either). And even then it was still a while before any other such editors came onto the scene. All the while, however, mods were and have been frequently released.
I've also ran that question in my mind. My conclusion is that it's not nessesary (but then again, what is actually nessesary?), but it would be quite nice to have a perfect tool both in usability and power. Not going to go crazy over not having that, it's a pet peeve of mine.@Dr.Zin wrote:That is a tough question with no definite answer. I really hate to answer your question with another question but...Are the currently available WDC and ChaosEdit packages outdated enough to warrant such a thing? They both have their odd bugs and glitches, however, they are not so profound as to hinder efforts or otherwise prevent a modder from creating a top-quality mod or TC (like FloEdit was). I think "don't reinvent the wheel" applies here. This isn't the kind of thing which requires the software to be on the bleeding edge of development to actually be successful. WDC and ChaosEdit are both successful editors in so far that they perform their functions adequately and without any real issues. As Wolf3d and Wolf4SDL exist today, the available tools are more than enough for even the most demanding mod maker.
Yes, it would certainly be interesting to have a true all-in-one suite whereby all of the tools needed to make a complete TC are integrated into one application, but that, I think, is being more than demanding and overly ambitious. The development of such an application is prohibitively time consuming given the size of our community. Just look at how long it has taken Game Maker to get where it is now. And given the level of tool integration we see with WDC and ChaosEdit, the only real direction to take would be something along those lines. But given their stability as they stand now, such a thing, in my opinion, isn't warranted.
@Dark_wizzie wrote:(but then again, what is actually nessesary?)
@Dark_wizzie wrote:That's too bad. I'm a fan of reading changelogs. Chaosedit is dead, HWE is dead, and let's face it, with the rate in which WDC is updated, it's practically dead. These are capable editors, but it's not a good sign.
eh the problom mentoined in this thread was solved a long time ago but thanks anyway@insurrectionman wrote:This is my personal computer and website. I have a mirror for it there. The download is crap most likely. But I may throw it on mediafire or something so there is a way to get the program again.
I think it moved to here:@Dark_wizzie wrote:Is the Chaos Edit website still down?