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    [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:51 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Beta 2 released!

    Splitwolf beta 2 - from 25.11.2012

    (video of pre-Beta 1....meaning old)


    New in this version:

    Support of more Wolf3D/Spear versions, new art and animations (including (but not only) new Boss art by Untrustable), many bugfixes (including art fix of the famous "missing frame"), tweaks and changes based on user feedback to improve the coop experience (for example player 1 is now intuitively on the right screen etc....have fun discovering the rest of the tweaks yourself), tweaks of one of the Boss fights (find out yourself why it's not a good idea to die during that one)...and more things you have to discover yourself Smile





    SplitScreen for up to 4 players in cooperative mode on a single PC!!! (SDL)
    Support for both vertical and horizontal splitscreen!
    Minimap/radar support.

    Coding: LinuxWolf
    Additional art: DoomJedi
    New Boss art by Untrustable
    Beta testing by HexaDoken

    Readme:
    Spoiler:
    SplitWolf Beta 2 - version from 25.11.2012
    Created by LinuxWolf and DoomJedi - Team RayCAST

    Wolf4SDL by Moritz "Ripper" Kroll (http://www.chaos-software.de.vu)
    Original Wolfenstein 3D by id Software (http://www.idsoftware.com)
    =============================================================================

    Thank you for downloading "SplitWolf" beta - the first and the only 2-player
    splitscreen coop Wolfenstein 3D port - on a cross-platform Wolf4SDL engine.

    This port brings you the ability to play your favourite Wolfenstein 3D with
    your friends, on modern computers! Smile

    Installation instructions:
    ------------------------------------

    Simply unzip the files into your Wolf4SDL folder (with your original Wolf3D
    files) and use Run_SplitWolf.bat to play (you can select version, as described in SplitWolf4SDL_versions.bat)

    How to play:
    ------------

    Simply run the Run_SplitWolf.bat to play.

    Batch file format:
    "Wolf4SDL.exe --split 2 --splitres 640 400 --splitlayout 2x1"

    You can enable 2-4 player mode in the Split Screen settings page. It can be
    found under Control, then Split Screen Settings.

    Two layouts are supported in 2 player mode. Choose 2x1 to position the players
    horizontally. Choose 1x2 to position the players vertically.

    Controls:
    ---------

    | Controls for Player 1 |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    | Left Arrow | Turn Left |
    | Right Arrow | Turn Right |
    | Up Arrow | Move Forwards |
    | Down Arrow | Move Backwards |
    | Control | Shoot |
    | Alt | Strafe |
    | Shift | Run Speed |
    | Left Mouse Button | Shoot |
    | Right Mouse Button | Open/Use |
    | Middle Mouse Button | Toggle Minimap |
    | Mouse Wheel Down | Cycle Next Weapon |
    | Mouse Wheel Up | Cycle Previous Weapon |
    | Page Up | Toggle Minimap |
    | Page Down | Change Color |
    | 1 | Select Knife |
    | 2 | Select Pistol |
    | 3 | Select MP40 |
    | 4 | Select Chaingun |

    | Controls for Player 2 |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    | A | Turn Left |
    | D | Turn Right |
    | W | Move Forwards |
    | S | Move Backwards |
    | Q | Shoot |
    | E | Open/Use |
    | X | Toggle Minimap |
    | Z | Cycle Next Weapon |
    | C | Change Color |

    | Controls for Player 3 |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    | Keypad 4 | Turn Left |
    | Keypad 6 | Turn Right |
    | Keypad 8 | Move Forwards |
    | Keypad 5 | Move Backwards |
    | Keypad 7 | Shoot |
    | Keypad 9 | Open/Use |
    | Keypad 2 | Toggle Minimap |
    | Keypad 1 | Cycle Next Weapon |
    | Keypad 3 | Change Color |

    | Controls for Player 4 |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    | J | Turn Left |
    | L | Turn Right |
    | I | Move Forwards |
    | K | Move Backwards |
    | U | Shoot |
    | O | Open/Use |
    | , | Toggle Minimap |
    | M | Cycle Next Weapon |
    | . | Change Color |

    | Minimap Controls |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    | [ | Zoom In |
    | ] | Zoom Out |


    Credits:
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    Coding: LinuxWolf
    Additional art: DoomJedi
    Most Boss art: UnTrustable
    Testing: HexaDoken

    - Special thanks to id Software! Without the source code we would still have
    to pelt Wolfenstein 3D with hex editors and disassemblers ;D
    - Thanks to Moritz "Ripper" Kroll for Wolf4SDL.


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    Post by Nexion on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:40 pm

    For the 3-player thingy, just curiousity cause some games like to solve it different due to uneven number. DeathTrigger had splitscreen more than a year ago but due to lack of anything it stayed crippled.
    How many people/members were eaten alive till now by all (Team R.) projects together?
    And do you have any tips how to lure programmers and mappers into the caves of others?
    It seems to rain programmers somewhere.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:01 am

    @Nexion wrote:For the 3-player thingy, just curiousity cause some games like to solve it different due to uneven number.
    Currently we are aiming on bugless support of 2 players only. Even the second player is a challenge for an average Wolfer to find nowdays....not to mention 2 or 3 more "ready to play Wolf" friends.
    Not to mention the obvious challenge to play more than 2 people on single keyboard.

    How many people/members were eaten alive till now by all (Team R.) projects together?
    What do you mean by "eaten alive"? We don't "eat" noone Smile

    And do you have any tips how to lure programmers and mappers into the caves of others?
    We don't "lure" people. The best way to be an attactive team is to make good mods and interesting projects people want to join.
    If you ask particulary for AlumiuN case - he is not new to "Team RayCast", being an old "Team RayCast" member who was the main coder of "Sonder". After he lost Sonder source (in the start of 2010) which we barely recovered at the time, losing at least 3 month of work) and almost led to project's cancellation (even before the buzz) - he somehow left Wolf3D scene, and we needed to hire new coders at the time, Andy helped, and later Havoc, till we re-created "lost" features and even added many new ones.

    In recent days I decided to visit "old" MSN Messenger, which I don't use for a long time, which was my main contact to him after he "left" our forums...and I saw him online...we chatted and I offered him to help our projects.

    And we don't just accept everyone into the team. AlumiuN proved himself as a capable, hard-working and creating coder, and you could see it even from Sonder trailer. At the old times, lack of proper backups was his only downside, but now he promiced to backup everything, so I saw no reason he can't join. Otherwise SplitWolf would needed to wait till LinuxWolf finishes our main project + "No Man's Land".

    It seems to rain programmers somewhere.
    That's an illusion.
    We have only 2 active coders (LinuxWolf and AlumiuN) on 4 projects (main mod, 2 batmod sequels and SplitWolf).
    Doesn't sounds like "rain of programmers" to me.
    Havoc left "Team RayCast" after finishing Sonder, as was pre-agreed with him.
    Andy is a "secondary coder" at most, after helping Sonder - he doesn't take active part in any of main ("big") team projects and is currently coding one other (5th) team project (a smaller one). He sometimes acts as a betatester - like in the case of "Batman vs. Bane".

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    Post by Nexion on Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:36 am

    Don't worry about people being eaten alive, i'm not hungry for now. Just wondered number-wise how many people were involved from Femstein era till recent stuff.

    That was an interesting read.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:43 am

    Don't worry about people being eaten alive, i'm not hungry for now. Just wondered number-wise how many people were involved from Femstein era till recent stuff.
    Count yourself:

    Femstein - DoomJedi and WLHack (and Vermil as external advisor)
    Sonder - DoomJedi, Dean, RonWolf, Havoc, AlumiuN, Tricob, Andy and Vermil (as external adviser). There were also some Beta-Testers, but I won't list them here (as I'm not sure they want to be publically known for having Sonder copy)
    Batman vs Bane - DoomJedi, LinuxWolf, RonWolf, Lozer_42, and Dean + Andy for betatesting.
    SplitWolf: DoomJedi,LinuxWolf and AlumiuN. Full release will have art contributions by Untrustable, and betatesting credit for HexaDoken.
    Our main unannounced project: Had involvement and coding by WSJ, till LinuxWolf replaced him. Currently it's DoomJedi, Dean, RonWolf, LinuxWolf (mainly)

    Also Lemm was involved with one other project.

    But yes....sometimes I indeed feel that "Team Raycast" soon will swallow the whole Wolf3D community, heh Smile
    Not to mention us hosting quite some Wolf3D projects of other people, we hosted Metalor's last project for example.
    Our forum is quite popular as well, though most of it's areas are private for development.

    Regarding LinuxWolf - he was here on the forum and nobody noticed him or gave him a chance. I noticed him and after seeing his work - he is the coding "star" of "Team RayCast" now.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by linuxwolf on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:29 pm

    I knew little about Wolf3D mod development before joining Team RayCast. I made up for it with a strong discipline in programming and willingness to learn new things. I had plenty of spare time to tinker with the game and DoomJedi was good enough to include me in the team.

    DoomJedi got me working on the Batman Vs Bane project. When I first fired it up I was simply blown away. The team had already done a tremendous job on the maps, art and sound. All it needed was some solid programming support. I filled that need and the project became a great success (well, by Wolf3D standards anyway).

    Team RayCast is always looking for new and talented programmers. We have lots of exciting projects in the works. Talk to DoomJedi if you are interested in helping out! Smile

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    Post by Nexion on Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:11 am

    Didn't catch the one about hosting other projects like Metalor's one. I appreciate the answers and the way you answered. Some back-to-the-future tale and informative especially regarding the new stuff. More or less what I was counting up to, well rather less. And good to hear about the possibilities.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:35 am

    @Nexion wrote:Didn't catch the one about hosting other projects like Metalor's one
    Our "Team RayCast" (PHPBB3) forum offers wolfers to host their in-dev. projects and gives/assigns them their own private dev. sub-forum with controlled access - only for team members of that project. We have a whole forum area dedicated for such.
    Those projects are not "Team RayCast" projects, but hosted projects of other wolfers and/or teams, and some indeed used the opportunity, like Metalor.
    In general, after projects are released - the related dev. sub-forum is deleted if stops being active + it's removal is approved by the project makers.

    Unless those members are also "Team RayCast" members - they don't get access to our own project dev. areas of the forum.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Metalor on Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:10 am

    Yep, we had a whole grand time talking over the project in the secret Guns and Glory forum. There were only like 2 posters, but the post count was easily in the hundreds.

    I'd say it's a good spot to do some feedback and testing with fellow Wolfers.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by WolferCooker on Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:08 pm

    we had a whole grand time talking over the project in the secret Guns and Glory forum.

    Yeah. And I was the only one that was the most active with playing Guns and Glory (apart from you of course Metalor)

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Metalor on Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:31 pm

    At least you won the contest! Wink

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by -Cobra- on Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:30 pm

    Any news on the upcoming release? silent

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:43 am

    Sorry to say, but no (beside new art that is still being made by Untrustable)

    LinuxWolf currently works hard on 2 other team projects (though plans to get back to SplitWolf after those), AlumiuN joined to help, and he is a great coder, but thus far he didn't do anything, being busy with his life. One other top-coder was offered the position, but he is too busy as well.
    So (unless AlumiuN will start showing some work) the project waits for LinuxWolf to finish preliminary (aka "phase 1") coding for "Batman: No Man's Land" and (+) the main mod of "Team RayCast". By "preliminary" I mean not a full coding, but enouph to allow mapping.

    If there is a capable coder (with a proven resume) who has the time and wants to help - PM me or LinuxWolf. Even better - Linuxwolf.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Tragos2d on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:17 pm

    Wow I almost missed this post... Like what I see! Split-screen Wolf is a step in the right direction concerning multiplayer.

    I'm very busy learning C++ and making my art but perhaps at some point in the future I may start messing around with Wolf3d again. I made some great progress with Birgers WinROTTgl port but I refuse to reveal anything until after his next release which expands model support to a variety of new formats. Very Happy !!!

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:17 pm

    Wow, thanks Smile

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Tragos2d on Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:20 am

    Just sat down and played it. This is exactly how I imagined Wolf would play cooperatively. My only minor nitpick is that it feels too smooth. How can I make Wolf4sdl mimic the speed of the original Dos version of Wolf3d running on a 486? Most people probably wouldn't care about doing this but it would help fulfill the illusion I'm back in the 90's. Smile

    Great work on the 8 sided sprites. During the firing animation of the machinegun a frame is missing on one of the rotations. I haven't managed to grab a screen of it but a WOLF4SDL texture briefly appears. Again congrats, this project is worth keeping an eye on.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:13 pm

    @Tragos2d wrote:This is exactly how I imagined Wolf would play cooperatively.
    Oh man, this is so nice to hear.
    cheers

    My only minor nitpick is that it feels too smooth.
    Smile Smile
    If this is the only nitpick - I can die happy Smile

    Great work on the 8 sided sprites.
    Thanks Smile
    This was not all the art I made for it, and the rest might go into full version or into a separate SplitWolf modding pack (note that even now you can freely create custom maps for it)...also the full version will have more art by Untrustable, there is sure alot of things to wait for. You can google his nick and see the new art BTW, it was publically posted in his threads.

    During the firing animation of the machinegun a frame is missing on one of the rotations. I haven't managed to grab a screen of it but a WOLF4SDL texture briefly appears. Again congrats, this project is worth keeping an eye on.
    Yeah, we're aware of that one . Will be fixed in the final release.
    (you've missed many other bugs we got feedbacks for, those are listed and will be fixed)

    The good news are, that as all new SplitWolf art are external artfiles in a "lwmp" subfolder - you can in 2 secs easily fix it on your side, just by duplicating the nearby frame.

    Team RayCast dev. forum wrote: Missing player frames - SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK4 (dir4 folder, copy of SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK2) and SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNREADY (dir4 folder, copy of SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK2 )

    Just duplicate Smile

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Tragos2d on Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:46 pm

    B.J's strafing speed is godike if you strafe with the mouse. Perhaps a maxspeed setting or delay in the code can address this. Sorry if this already was mentioned. (didn't read entire post above)

    I must know if you play on adding any type of LAN or Netplay? Very Happy

    I understand the basics of socket programing for C++ but I'm not up to such a task alone. How exactly does the AI handle itself when it tracks more than one player? This must have required an extensive re-write of the game logic. Does the AI simply pick who is the closet during the loop or does it perform a more advanced line of sight routine?

    Anyone here use Teamviewer? If so I think it's possible via remote viewing to mimic a multiplayer match. Although I'm unsure if Teamviewer allows the "viewer" to enter in keystrokes of the viewee's machine. Anyone care to try this out?

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:34 pm

    @Tragos2d wrote:B.J's strafing speed is godike if you strafe with the mouse. Perhaps a maxspeed setting or delay in the code can address this. Sorry if this already was mentioned. (didn't read entire post above)
    Added to the list.
    "Fix/improve" list is now 22 items long Smile

    I must know if you play on adding any type of LAN or Netplay? Very Happy
    We've adressed this issue before.
    As you've noticed - the basis of multiplayer handling is there, and sure, in the future, it's a good base for such project, and no doubts we all would LOVE to see true Wolf3D multiplayer....but currently no, our first goal is the release full-version SplitWolf. Before that's done - no netplay work is planned to be made.

    I understand the basics of socket programing for C++
    For more reference - "Skulltag" code can be looked at.

    How exactly does the AI handle itself when it tracks more than one player? This must have required an extensive re-write of the game logic. Does the AI simply pick who is the closet during the loop or does it perform a more advanced line of sight routine?
    No, it doesn't pick the closest, it's a routine written by LinuxWolf. Enemies change targets based on a less "strict" criteria, to create less predictable gameplay.

    Anyone here use Teamviewer?
    Yes.

    If so I think it's possible via remote viewing to mimic a multiplayer match.
    Very original idea, didn't think of it.
    Indeed, it might be possible, but as you know - TeamViewer screen colors/quality is much worse over TeamViewer.

    Although I'm unsure if Teamviewer allows the "viewer" to enter in keystrokes of the viewee's machine.
    It does.

    Anyone care to try this out?
    Sure, can be nice idea.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:11 am

    The project is now on moddb Smile

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/splitwolf

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by -Cobra- on Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:46 am

    @doomjedi wrote:The project is now on moddb Smile

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/splitwolf

    Nice! Cool

    Does this mean we will see an updated beta with some improvements/fixes soon? Confusion

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:28 am

    @-Cobra- wrote:
    Does this mean we will see an updated beta with some improvements/fixes soon? Confusion
    I'm sorry to say there was no work done on this since the Beta, beside new art.
    The project will be advanced at some point, but at this point of time it's not at the top priority of LinuxWolf, who is currently working on the main mod of "Team RayCast" and is expected to work on this for at least a month or two, till it's ready for mapping. We currently don't have any project in a full mapping stage, and so this is our top priority to give mappers something to do/to advance.

    After that he plans to finish working on "Batman: No Mans Land" and that might take at least 3 more months.

    After that I think he plans to return to "SplitWolf".

    But you can PM LinuxWolf etc...maybe the more interest he sees in "SplitWolf" - that might affect his priorities.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by ronwolf1705 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:02 am

    But you can PM LinuxWolf etc...maybe the more interest he sees in "SplitWolf" - that might affect his priorities.

    No need to do this, just let him do his stuff and have some patience.




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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by -Cobra- on Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:21 am

    I really hope this project doesn't get abandoned. =(

    Could we at least get a new build with the "new art" and Missing player frames - SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK4 fix?

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:25 am

    @-Cobra- wrote:I really hope this project doesn't get abandoned. =(
    I hope so too. It all depends on LinuxWolf at this point and his interest - after the "cool" part is already coded in and there are just tons of more boring "bugfixes" - while other cool projects in the pipeline of "Team RayCast".
    Unless there comes a capable coder and LinuxWolf will agree to pass this project to him.
    From what I know - LinuxWolf didn't abandon the SplitScreen idea as a feature - but I don't want to talk on his behalf.

    Could we at least get a new build with the "new art"
    This is a possibility (at least for those art which doesn't require additional coding). I'd still prefer LinuxWolf blessing for such a beta update. IMHO it's a fair compromise while the project is delayed. But still - it's LinuxWolf's "baby" to such a big extend that I don't see myself going against him on anything he strongly opposes.
    If people would show interest in modding the current beta - I might consider (hopefully with LinuxWolf's blessing) releasing additional art to extend the modding options of the current beta for more enemies and weapons. But this is hardly helpful unless the source is released - as otherwise it's just art per art changes.

    and Missing player frames - SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK4 fix?
    As this can be fixed in 3 sec on user comp by the user itself by simple sprite duplication - don't see the rush.
    Missing player frames - SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK4 (lwmp\sprites\dir4 folder, copy of
    SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK2) and SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNREADY (lwmp\sprites\dir4 folder, copy of
    SPR_BJ_MACHINEGUNATK2 )

    That said - there is no doubt any future release will have this done.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:28 am

    Good news - LinuxWolf agreed to prepare a release of a new beta.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by -Cobra- on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:48 am

    @doomjedi wrote:Good news - LinuxWolf agreed to prepare a release of a new beta.
    This is good news indeed! bounce Can't wait!

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:04 am

    LinuxWolf started working on a new beta.
    This obviously postpones some other in-dev projects by "Team RayCast"

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:51 pm

    Me and LinuxWolf are working on this full throttle.
    We seem to be quite inspired, and there are some neat ideas being thrown around. We'll have to see how much of those will get implemented.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Dark_wizzie on Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:28 am

    Looks nice, now if I can only find somebody to play it with...



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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:47 pm

    Things are going well.
    Most (not all, but most) bugs of first beta are already either fixed or couldn't be replicated.

    But as we plan to support ...something additional.....this added a new list of coding tasks.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:02 am

    Can someone list the differences between all the Wolf3D/Spear versions?Or is there existing link to that info?
    Is it VSWAP?

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by Andy on Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:22 am

    That's a tall order! But there are primarily three types of registered Wolf3d based on the VGA files:

    Apogee 1.1
    Apogee 1.4
    GT/Activision/iD 1.4

    They can be identified by the signon screen. The version number is in the lower right hand corner, the distributor's logo is on the top right (iD's logo is on the top left - and yes, on iD's version there are two iD logos). They are incompatible from a VGA file point of view, although the GAMEMAPS, VSWAPs and AUDIOT files might be compatible.

    The Wolfenstein 3D Mall attempted to list all of the versions (under Original PC-> versions list), but it focused mostly on the file sizes. Looks incomplete to me.

    Chris Chokan sent me this link which lists the files he has.

    Here's a post I made over a dozen years ago on the subject:
    This will be a lengthy post, but I hope it might be helpful or
    interesting to some of you...

    Inspecting various wolfenstein addons files, I have
    determined that there are five different "registered"
    versions in circulation:

    Apogee v1.1 (6/22/92 exe is 98,402 bytes)
    Apogee v1.4 (12/3/92 exe is 110,715 bytes)
    id v1.4 (9/2/93 exe is 259,310 bytes)
    GT v1.4 (4/13/94 exe is 109,589 bytes)
    Activision v1.4 (1/27/98 exe is 108,779 bytes)

    On the first menu screen, the version number is on the bottom right, and the
    picture on the top right shows the distributor's logo...the top left
    picture always has the id logo.

    All VSWAPS (graphics/digitized sound) and GAMEMAPS (levels) for
    all five are compatible with each other. However, the VGAGRAPH (title screen,
    info bar, etc.) for Apogee 1.1 and 1.4 are NOT compatible with any other
    version NOR with each other. That is why VGAFILES.ZIP is offered with
    the source code - these files are actually from what I call the id version.
    The GT (Good Times) and Activision VGA files also work with the source
    code.

    Having said all this, the default executable you get when you compile the
    source code is the id/GT/Activision one. The GT logo is the one
    displayed on the first menu.

    You can control what version you compile by overwriting VERSION.H with a copy
    of one of the following files (I've been able to compile these three only) :

    WOLFGTV.H GT version (equivalent to id and Activision)
    WOLFVER.H Apogee 1.4 version
    WOLF1VER.H Apogee 1.4 shareware version

    Notes:
    By default, VERSION.H = WOLFGTV.H

    The only differences that I notice between the GT and the Apogee
    compilations is the F1 key during play: Boss/DOS key for GT, help screen
    for Apogee; and the Apogee one has an extra "non-shareware" message at the
    start of gameplay.

    When compiling the shareware version, to play you must use the VGA files
    from the Apogee version. Remember, the shareware is Apogee 1.4
    too!

    SODVER.H and SDMVER.H would be used for Spear and its demo, respectively,
    but they do not compile. I think the released source code has wolfenstein
    video code updates, but this was not done for SoD yet. Some program called
    IGRAB still needs to be run for SoD to work, I think. Unless someone can
    figure out how to re-code this by hand....

    Japanese and Spanish version code exists too, but files needed for these are
    not included with the source code.

    Comments?

    Andy
    All of these links and information are probably incomplete, possibly inaccurate. A better bet would be to contact Ripper or Braden "Blzut3" Obrzut (ECWolf author) who have dealt with the various versions in making their ports. They may have information on offsets for the pertinent files.

    Hope this helps,
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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:29 am

    We've decided today, together with LinuxWolf, that (in order not to over-stall other exciting "Team Raycast" mods in development) - next "SplitWolf" version will be beta 2 (which is pretty much ready to be released, after a bit more testing) and not "full version 1.0" we originally intended to release - in particular without support of that additional thing we wanted to support.

    Beta 2 will have new/more art, address different bugs and suggestions regarding previous beta, and some nice little surprises/tweaks.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:08 am

    Beta 2 is ready, we try to contact our betatester to test it.

    LinuxWolf plans to advance the Batman sequel now.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:44 am

    Updated the first post with beta 2 Smile Have fun Smile

    It's still a beta - we need your feedbacks.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by WolferCooker on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:07 am

    Very interesting to say the least. Do you guys plan on making/adding any optional sprites if someone were to use Splitwolf with a more advanced mod?


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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:27 am

    @WolferCooker wrote:Very interesting to say the least.
    Thank you very much Smile We are trying to keep you satisfied and happy Smile

    Do you guys plan on making/adding any optional sprites if someone were to use Splitwolf with a more advanced mod?
    A question asked on ModDB as well...
    http://www.moddb.com/mods/splitwolf

    Do you mean any particular sprites - or is it a general question?

    First - I wanna say "SplitWolf" is not at a priority of "Team RayCast" for various reasons ... the fact that most of Wolfers have noone to play Wolf3D with... having less "wow" potential than our other in-work projects (and we have only one active coder that can't work on more than one mod at once)...having beta already pretty much working.... etc etc.... So don't expect full release anytime soon (and not only because we want to collect feedbacks). LinuxWolf moved to work on "Batman : No Man's Land" (noone will probably prefer "SplitWolf" over that mod), and he has another big and promicing mod after that...
    Regular mod everyone can play... and "SplitWolf" - only those who have someone to play with... so exposure-wise we tend prefer big mods/TCs.

    Now back to your question.
    First - I'm not sure how you can make "SplitWolf" coding-wise to work with a more advanced mod, and not classic "vanilla" Wolf3D mappack.
    But for the sake of the discussion let's assume art is your only problem.
    I've made in the past 8-dir shooting sprites for different commonly-used Wolf3D enemies and can probably release those upon request. One can duplicate normal death frames for all the other death states of the latest beta.
    The same for intermission pics with additional commonly-used-in-mods weapons that cover basically every possible option. Art is already made and can be released (with credit) if I'll really see someone has something useful to do with it. The same for (at least most of ) 8-dir BJ sprites with additional commonly-used-in-mods weapons.

    But I don't see how those are of any help (having SplitWolf source code not released)...that's the problem. Convince me Smile

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:48 am

    In other words - without the source - you can't add new enemies or new things...only replace art-per-art existing things...so it's hard to see how new art can be usable.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by WolferCooker on Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:08 am

    you can say art has something to do with it. But to be more specific, would there be optional sprites made to show BJ carrying a rocket launcher, rifle, flamethrower, etc. if someone were to add those weapons in their mod with SplitWolf in it?

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:23 am

    @WolferCooker wrote:you can say art has something to do with it. But to be more specific, would there be optional sprites made to show BJ carrying a rocket launcher, rifle, flamethrower, etc. if someone were to add those weapons in their mod with SplitWolf in it?
    Yes, I have all of those (and much more) already made and sitting on my comp/Dropbox...Including intermission pics (currently non-animated (but with damage levels) unlike the ones used in this beta (lots of artwork, and so I did it only for classic Wolf3D weapons actually used in the beta)), not only BJ actor sprites.
    Some BJ actor sprites do lack some frames.
    Intermission pics are the most extended and cover much more weapons than you can imagine...any weapon you can imagine for Wolf3D mod.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by WolferCooker on Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:02 pm

    Oh okay that's good. Wow you thought ahead for all this.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:35 pm

    Thank you Smile
    Well, at some point we considered to add those new weapons to "SplitWolf" and even more than that...never mind...so I made the art...and that's why some of BJ frames went unfinished...after I saw we are not expanding "SplitWolf" to new weapons....
    I even prepared weapon HUD pics for all the weapons, from "Eisenfaust" and other mods in development...and scrapped art...
    Intermission pics are the most impressive for the weapons...hope those will be ever useful.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by wolfie on Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:06 pm

    just a thought:why not make it so you can fight over the internet too mabe you could add a opthoin that says netplay and you could have a screen where you tell the game rather you are useing a lan or a wireless connectoin or a modem. etc



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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:54 am

    Thank you for your interest in the project.

    It is obvious that everyone would like to play Wolf3D multiplayer.
    When you say "you could add a option" - it sounds so easy...which is misleading. It's not like just adding an option...it's a task of whole different level and scale that require networking knowledge, packet handling, syncing, error handling...complicated testing and lot's of work - so much that it's no coincidence no coder yet took that as a project.
    Even existing "SplitWolf" took huge amount of coding work to make, and it uses only local comp. Currently net support is not planned for "SplitWolf".

    You can play multiplayer on Wolf3D zDoom remakes...there is also NetWolf alpha we are testing right now. Maybe ECWolf will have such capabilities?

    I hope somebody will make faithful Skulltag Wolf3D remake, which would take it to whole other level.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by wolfie on Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:32 pm

    @doomjedi wrote:Thank you for your interest in the project.

    It is obvious that everyone would like to play Wolf3D multiplayer.
    When you say "you could add a option" - it sounds so easy...which is misleading. It's not like just adding an option...it's a task of whole different level and scale that require networking knowledge, packet handling, syncing, error handling...complicated testing and lot's of work - so much that it's no coincidence no coder yet took that as a project.
    Even existing "SplitWolf" took huge amount of coding work to make, and it uses only local comp. Currently net support is not planned for "SplitWolf".

    You can play multiplayer on Wolf3D zDoom remakes...there is also NetWolf alpha we are testing right now. Maybe ECWolf will have such capabilities?

    I hope somebody will make faithful Skulltag Wolf3D remake, which would take it to whole other level.
    well....a man can always dream can't he Very Happy



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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by wolfie on Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:45 pm

    also another idea that may reqire a little less work i liked that you could cusumize player 2's clothes prehaps maybe you could take this a step farther and make it so you can custumize the colors of
    all the player's clothes and make your own color's as well [i have never tryed to code anything before so i don't know how much work stuff like this would take so...
    i'm just spewing out ideas i come up with as i think of them so just let me know if they seem like good ones or not].



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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:26 pm

    @wolfie wrote:i liked that you could cusumize player 2's clothes prehaps maybe you could take this a step farther and make it so you can custumize the colors of all the player's clothes and make your own color's as well
    First - player colors are customizable in SplitWolf within certain limited selection of colors - brown, grey, blue, green, pink, red, light blue ...sounds like enouph to fit most tastes.
    Beyond that - it's not supported natively within Wolf3D palette.
    Other colors have less shades which will lead to color loss and color depth differences between the colors.

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by wolfie on Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:36 pm

    @doomjedi wrote:
    @wolfie wrote:i liked that you could cusumize player 2's clothes prehaps maybe you could take this a step farther and make it so you can custumize the colors of all the player's clothes and make your own color's as well
    First - player colors are customizable in SplitWolf within certain limited selection of colors - brown, grey, blue, green, pink, red, light blue ...sounds like enouph to fit most tastes.
    Beyond that - it's not supported natively within Wolf3D palette.
    Other colors have less shades which will lead to color loss and color depth differences between the colors.
    i always thought while playing this mod
    that you could only change player 2's cloths...



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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by doomjedi on Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:12 am

    @wolfie wrote:i always thought while playing this mod
    that you could only change player 2's cloths...
    ...you thought wrong Smile

    From "SplitWolf" readme (readme.txt):

    | Controls for Player 1 |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    .....
    | Page Up | Toggle Minimap |
    | Page Down | Change Color |

    .......................................................................

    | Controls for Player 2 |
    |----------------------------------------------|
    | Key | Action |
    |----------------------|-----------------------|
    ........
    | X | Toggle Minimap |
    | C | Change Color

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    Re: [Beta 2 Artpack 1.0 released] SplitWolf

    Post by wolfie on Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:53 pm

    lol sorry about my ignorince [man i gotta start reading the readme files before i play mods JK]



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